WoW Forever Blacksmithing Plans: Trainer, Vendor, Quest and Drop Sources
Beta caveat: built from beta records ahead of launch on 4 Nov UTC / 5 Nov AEDT. [Classic-based] = Classic Era data Forever may change; [Unconfirmed] = to recheck at launch.
Where does each Blacksmithing plan come from in Forever? This page sorts them by source: trainer, vendor, reputation, Merchant’s Favor, quest and drop. For the skill-up route, use the Blacksmithing 1–300 guide.
How Blacksmithing recipes are learned
| Source | Recipes | What it means |
|---|---|---|
| Learned with the profession | 5 | You know them as soon as you train Blacksmithing: Copper Bracers, Rough Copper Vest, Rough Sharpening Stone, Rough Weightstone and Copper Rod. |
| Trainer | 95 | Bought from a Blacksmithing trainer as you rank up. |
| Plans item | 354 | You read plans (or a camp blueprint) that you bought, looted, earned with Merchant’s Favor or got from a quest. |
| Quest only | 4 | Taught by a quest with no plans item: Orcish War Leggings and the Ornate Mithril Breastplate, Boots and Helm. |
| Source not recorded yet | 54 | No learning source in the records yet, including some 320-skill entries. [Unconfirmed] |
Counts come from Questing.wiki’s Forever Blacksmithing catalogue of 512 recipes. Some plans appear twice with different item IDs, such as Moonsteel Broadsword, Golden Scale Coif and Golden Scale Boots.
Most Forever plans can be read earlier than the skill Questing.wiki lists for the recipe. Wowhead Forever’s tooltip has Plans: Hardened Iron Shortsword at 135 against 160 in the catalogue, and Plans: Dawnbringer Shoulders at 265 against 290. The tables below use the tooltip value.
Trainer recipes
| Who teaches it | Examples | Listed cost |
|---|---|---|
| Most Blacksmithing trainers, both factions | Copper Chain Pants, Copper Mace, Sharpening Wheel, Runed Copper Pants, Coarse Sharpening Stone, Thick War Axe | 50c to 5s |
| 13 trainers, including Bengus Deepforge (Ironforge), Therum Deepforge (Stormwind City), Saru Steelfury (Orgrimmar) and Karn Stonehoof (Thunder Bluff) | Runed Copper Bracers, Rough Bronze Cuirass, Pearl-handled Dagger, Heavy Sharpening Stone, Shining Silver Breastplate, Golden Skeleton Key | 1s to 10s |
| 12 trainers (the same list without Brikk Keencraft) | Justicar’s, Officer’s, Prefect’s, Sentinel’s and Warder’s Belt | 42s 50c |
| 4 trainers: Alard Schmied (Alterac Mountains), Bengus Deepforge (Ironforge), Brikk Keencraft (Stranglethorn Vale) and Saru Steelfury (Orgrimmar) | Green Iron Leggings, Glinting Steel Dagger, Solid Sharpening Stone, Steel Breastplate, Heavy Mithril Gauntlet, Heavy Mithril Axe, Steel Plate Helm | 10s to 1g |
| Brikk Keencraft (Stranglethorn Vale) only | Big Black Mace | 1g 57s 89c |
Another 23 recipes are listed as trainer-taught with no trainer or cost recorded yet. They include the Acolyte’s, Crusader’s, Guard’s, Protector’s and Veteran’s chain shirts, leggings and helms, plus Mithril Coif, Heavy Mithril Breastplate, the Dense stones and Arcanite Rod. [Unconfirmed] In Classic Era the Mithril, Dense and Arcanite ones come from Artisan trainers. [Classic-based] Rank requirements are on the Blacksmithing guide.
Vendor plans, skill 1–224
| Plans | Plan needs | Sold by | Listed price | Stock |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Solid Iron Maul | 130 | Jannos Ironwill (Arathi Highlands), Muuran (Desolace), Jazzrik (Badlands) | 26s 66c to 31s 57c | Limited |
| Hardened Iron Shortsword | 135 | Jutak (Stranglethorn Vale), Sumi (Orgrimmar), Kaita Deepforge (Stormwind City) | 30s to 31s 57c | Limited |
| Mantle of the Second War | 150 | Elaine Compton (Stormwind City), Jornah (Orgrimmar), Dokimi (Thunder Bluff) and 3 more | 7g 50s to 7g 94s 11c | Unlimited |
| Moonsteel Broadsword | 155 | Zarena Cromwind (Stranglethorn Vale) | 44s | Limited |
| Massive Iron Axe | 160 | Vharr (Stranglethorn Vale), Jaquilina Dramet (Stranglethorn Vale) | 41s 41c to 44s | Limited |
| Golden Scale Coif | 165 | Krinkle Goodsteel (Tanaris) | 46s 31c | Limited |
| Moonsteel Broadsword | 180 | Zarena Cromwind (Stranglethorn Vale) | 44s | Limited |
| Golden Scale Coif | 190 | Krinkle Goodsteel (Tanaris) | 46s 31c | Limited |
| Mithril Plate Bracers | 190 | Harggan (The Hinterlands), Gharash (Swamp of Sorrows) | 54s to 56s 84c | Limited |
| Low-Background Truesilver Plates | 200 | Ziri “The Wrench” Littlesprocket (Gnomeregan) | 2g 50s | Unlimited |
“Plan needs” is the Blacksmithing skill, plus any specialization and reputation rank, printed on the plan’s Wowhead Forever tooltip. Prices are the lowest and highest listed across Questing.wiki’s Forever vendor records. “Limited” means each recorded seller holds one copy at a time.
Gorhak in Desolace is reported selling Plans: Iron Morningstar and Plans: Hard Gold Gauntlet, two Forever plans, with no price recorded. [Unconfirmed]
Vendor and reputation plans, skill 225–300
| Plans | Plan needs | Sold by | Listed price | Stock |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Reflective Truesilver Braincage | 225 | Ziri “The Wrench” Littlesprocket (Gnomeregan) | 5g | Unlimited |
| Tempered Interference-Negating Helmet | 225 | Ziri “The Wrench” Littlesprocket (Gnomeregan) | 5g | Unlimited |
| Ebon Shiv | 230 | Magnus Frostwake (Western Plaguelands) | 1g | Unlimited |
| Ornate Thorium Handaxe | 250 | Magnus Frostwake (Western Plaguelands) | 1g 60s | Unlimited |
| Huge Thorium Battleaxe | 255 | Magnus Frostwake (Western Plaguelands) | 2g | Unlimited |
| Dawnbringer Shoulders | 265, Armorsmith, Argent Dawn Revered | Argent Quartermaster Hasana (Tirisfal Glades), Argent Quartermaster Lightspark (Western Plaguelands), Quartermaster Miranda Breechlock (Eastern Plaguelands) | 2g 31s 57c to 2g 47s 50c | Unlimited |
| Girdle of the Dawn | 265, Argent Dawn Honored | Argent Quartermaster Hasana (Tirisfal Glades), Argent Quartermaster Lightspark (Western Plaguelands), Quartermaster Miranda Breechlock (Eastern Plaguelands) | 2g 20s to 2g 31s 57c | Unlimited |
| Dark Iron Bracers | 270, Armorsmith, Thorium Brotherhood Friendly | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 7g 41s 17c | Limited |
| Fiery Chain Girdle | 270, Armorsmith, Thorium Brotherhood Honored | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 9g 52s 94c | Limited |
| Black Amnesty | 300, Weaponsmith, Thorium Brotherhood Revered | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 7g 41s 17c | Unlimited |
| Blackfury | 300, Weaponsmith, Thorium Brotherhood Revered | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 7g 41s 17c | Unlimited |
| Blackguard | 300, Master Swordsmith, Thorium Brotherhood Exalted | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 10g 80s | Unlimited |
| Bloodsoul Breastplate | 300, Zandalar Tribe Revered | Rin’wosho the Trader (Stranglethorn Vale) | 5g 62s 50c | Unlimited |
| Bloodsoul Gauntlets | 300, Zandalar Tribe Friendly | Rin’wosho the Trader (Stranglethorn Vale) | 5g 62s 50c | Unlimited |
| Bloodsoul Shoulders | 300, Zandalar Tribe Honored | Rin’wosho the Trader (Stranglethorn Vale) | 5g 29s 41c | Unlimited |
| Dark Iron Boots | 300, Armorsmith, Thorium Brotherhood Exalted | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 7g 20s | Unlimited |
| Dark Iron Destroyer | 300, Master Axesmith, Thorium Brotherhood Honored | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 23g 29s 41c | Limited |
| Dark Iron Gauntlets | 300, Armorsmith, Thorium Brotherhood Revered | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 8g 47s 5c | Unlimited |
| Dark Iron Helm | 300, Armorsmith, Thorium Brotherhood Honored | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 6g 35s 29c | Limited |
| Dark Iron Leggings | 300, Armorsmith, Thorium Brotherhood Revered | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 19g 5s 88c | Unlimited |
| Dark Iron Reaver | 300, Master Swordsmith, Thorium Brotherhood Honored | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 23g 29s 41c | Limited |
| Darksoul Breastplate | 300, Zandalar Tribe Revered | Rin’wosho the Trader (Stranglethorn Vale) | 5g 62s 50c | Unlimited |
| Ebon Hand | 300, Master Hammersmith, Thorium Brotherhood Exalted | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 10g 80s | Unlimited |
| Fiery Chain Shoulders | 300, Armorsmith, Thorium Brotherhood Revered | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 21g 17s 64c | Unlimited |
| Gloves of the Dawn | 300, Argent Dawn Revered | Argent Quartermaster Hasana (Tirisfal Glades), Argent Quartermaster Lightspark (Western Plaguelands), Quartermaster Miranda Breechlock (Eastern Plaguelands) | 4g to 4g 50s | Unlimited |
| Jagged Obsidian Shield | 300, Cenarion Circle Revered | Lieutenant General Andorov (Ruins of Ahn’Qiraj) | 4g 44s 44c | Limited |
| Nightfall | 300, Master Axesmith, Thorium Brotherhood Exalted | Lokhtos Darkbargainer (Blackrock Depths) | 13g 50s | Unlimited |
| Obsidian Mail Tunic | 300, Cenarion Circle Exalted | Lieutenant General Andorov (Ruins of Ahn’Qiraj) | 7g 11s 11c | Limited |
“Plan needs” is the Blacksmithing skill, plus any specialization and reputation rank, printed on the plan’s Wowhead Forever tooltip. Prices are the lowest and highest listed across Questing.wiki’s Forever vendor records. “Limited” means each recorded seller holds one copy at a time.
The top end mostly comes from faction quartermasters: Magnus Frostwake in Western Plaguelands, the three Argent Dawn quartermasters, Lokhtos Darkbargainer for the Thorium Brotherhood (Blackrock Depths), Rin’wosho the Trader for the Zandalar Tribe (Stranglethorn Vale) and Lieutenant General Andorov for the Cenarion Circle (Ruins of Ahn’Qiraj). The tooltips name the rank: Blackguard needs Exalted with the Thorium Brotherhood and Master Swordsmith, while Bloodsoul Gauntlets needs only Friendly with the Zandalar Tribe. Darksoul Leggings and Darksoul Shoulders are also reported from Rin’wosho, with no price recorded. [Unconfirmed] Weapon and armour specs are covered on Blacksmithing specializations.
Merchant’s Favor plans
Stondry Darkhammer in Redridge Mountains (Alliance) and Gor’mak in The Barrens (Horde) are recorded selling 60 Forever plans for Merchant’s Favor:
| Favor | Plans | Plan needs | Examples |
|---|---|---|---|
| 30 | 30 | 45 to 125 | Acolyte’s, Crusader’s, Guard’s, Protector’s and Veteran’s chain belts, gloves, boots, helms, shirts and leggings |
| 60 | 10 | 175 to 210, Friendly | Justicar’s, Officer’s, Prefect’s, Sentinel’s and Warder’s Gauntlet and Pauldrons |
| 90 | 16 | 225 to 250, Honored | The same five plate lines’ Wristguards, Sabatons and Waistguards, plus Thorium Cestus and Thorium Greatmace |
| 120 | 4 | 300, Honored | Enriched Thorium Breastplate, Enriched Thorium Helm, Enriched Thorium Leggings and Legionite Glaive |
The tooltips ask for Friendly or Honored “with this faction” without naming it. How Favor works is on the Merchant’s Favor page. [Unconfirmed]
Plans that aren’t in Classic Era
These plans use item IDs that Classic Era never had:
- Plans: Mantle of the Second War (150) is sold in all six capitals for 7g 50s, such as by Elaine Compton in Stormwind City and Jornah in Orgrimmar.
- Ziri “The Wrench” Littlesprocket in Gnomeregan sells Low-Background Truesilver Plates (200, 2g 50s) and two 225 helms for 5g each.
- The Azure and Cloudy Skyforged chain sets (50 to 60) need Friendly or Honored with the Nightclaw Druids. Their helms and pauldrons (175) need Friendly with the Kirin Tor or the Earthen Ring, and are reported from Archmage Alvareaux (Alterac Mountains) and Sutara Plainstalker (Mulgore). [Unconfirmed]
- Sterling Silver plans (100 to 125) are rare world drops, such as Plans: Sterling Silver Boots from Syndicate Watchmen and Plans: Sterling Silver Shoulders from Shadowhide Gnolls.
- Plans: Scarlet Soldier’s Helmet (280) drops from Grand Crusader Caldoran at a 7.38% rate on its Wowhead Forever tooltip.
- Clutchlord’s and Goregasher plans (285 to 295) need Friendly or Honored with the Cenarion Circle, and Plans: Bagh Nakh and Plans: Stormcarver need Revered with Timbermaw Hold. No seller is recorded for these yet. [Unconfirmed]
Quest plans
| Plans | Plan needs | Quest |
|---|---|---|
| Rough Copper Chain Boots | 50 | The Quarry’s Smith or This Is Spinal Axe (Horde), quest level 10 |
| Ironforge Breastplate | 100 | Gearing Redridge (Alliance), quest level 16 |
| Barbaric Iron Breastplate | 135 | Barbaric Battlements (Horde), quest level 32 |
| Barbaric Iron Shoulders | 135 | On Iron Pauldrons (Horde), quest level 32 |
| Barbaric Iron Helm | 150 | Horns of Frenzy (Horde), quest level 36 |
| Barbaric Iron Boots | 155 | Trampled Under Foot (Horde), quest level 36 |
| Barbaric Iron Gloves | 160 | Joys of Omosh (Horde), quest level 36 |
| Golden Scale Gauntlets | 180 | The Origins of Smithing (Alliance), quest level 40 |
| Ornate Mithril Gloves | 195 | The Great Silver Deceiver, quest level 45 |
| Ornate Mithril Pants | 195 | Smelt On, Smelt Off, quest level 45 |
| Ornate Mithril Shoulders | 200 | The Art of the Imbue, quest level 45 |
| Imperial Plate Belt | 240 | Imperial Plate Belt, quest level 60 |
| Dawn’s Edge | 250 | Snakestone of the Shadow Huntress, quest level 60 (Master Axesmith) |
| Blazing Rapier | 255 | Corruption, quest level 60 (Master Swordsmith) |
| Enchanted Battlehammer | 255 | Sweet Serenity, quest level 60 (Master Hammersmith) |
| Demon Forged Breastplate | 260 | The Demon Forge, quest level 60 (Armorsmith) |
| Enchanted Thorium Breastplate | 300 | Enchanted Thorium Platemail: Volume I, quest level 60 (Armorsmith) |
| Sulfuron Hammer | 300 | A Binding Contract, quest level 60 |
The other Imperial Plate pieces and the Enchanted Thorium Helm and Leggings come from same-named or follow-up quests. Quest names come from community reports that mix Forever beta and Classic Era. [Classic-based]
Drop plans
Most low and mid plans are world drops with dozens of reported sources, and many also turn up in lockboxes. Plans: Heavy Mithril Pants, for example, has 200 reported drop sources and is also found in Strong Iron and Steel Lockboxes. The Blueprint: Anvil for your camp drops from Gilnid in the Deadmines (0.20% on its tooltip).
Named drops to farm
| Plans | Plan needs | Reported source |
|---|---|---|
| Annihilator | 300, Master Axesmith | Quartermaster Zigris, Blackrock Spire |
| Arcanite Champion | 300, Master Swordsmith | Goraluk Anvilcrack, Blackrock Spire |
| Arcanite Reaper | 300, Master Axesmith | Bannok Grimaxe, Blackrock Spire |
| Black Grasp of the Destroyer | 300 | Moam, Ruins of Ahn’Qiraj |
| Frostguard | 300, Master Swordsmith | Foreman Marcrid, Western Plaguelands |
| Hammer of the Titans | 300, Master Hammersmith | Maleki the Pallid, Stratholme |
| Heartseeker | 300, Weaponsmith | Cannon Master Willey, Stratholme |
| Masterwork Stormhammer | 300, Master Hammersmith | Goraluk Anvilcrack, Blackrock Spire |
| Thick Obsidian Breastplate | 300 | The Prophet Skeram, Ahn’Qiraj |
| Runic Breastplate | 285 | Strashaz Myrmidon or Tidelord Rrurgaz, Dustwallow Marsh |
| Runic Plate Leggings | 285 | Scarlet Smith, Western Plaguelands |
| Tempered Dark Iron Plate | 285, Armorsmith | Ribbly Screwspigot, Blackrock Depths |
| Runic Plate Helm | 280 | Strashaz Warrior, Dustwallow Marsh |
| Runic Plate Boots | 275 | Scarlet Cavalier, Western Plaguelands |
| Runic Plate Shoulders | 275 | Strashaz Serpent Guard, Dustwallow Marsh |
| Volcanic Hammer | 265 | Volchan, Burning Steppes |
| Dark Iron Plate | 260, Armorsmith | Ribbly Screwspigot, Blackrock Depths |
| Dark Iron Pulverizer | 240, Weaponsmith | Grizzle, Blackrock Depths |
Each of these has only one or two reported sources in the records, so they’re the ones to farm for. Drop rates aren’t confirmed for Forever. [Unconfirmed]
Tips
- Check limited-stock vendors when you pass them. One copy means another player can buy it first.
- Stranglethorn Vale has four plan sellers (Jutak, Zarena Cromwind, Vharr and Jaquilina Dramet) plus Brikk Keencraft, so one trip covers a lot.
- Specialization plans only work for that spec, so check the tooltip before you buy.
- Rare drop plans sell well on the auction house. See crafting for gold for what to make with them.
Related: Blacksmithing 1–300, Blacksmithing specializations, Mining, ore farming, Merchant’s Favor, Leatherworking recipe sources, Tailoring recipe sources, auction house tips and all professions.
FAQ
Where do I get the Anvil blueprint?
It drops from Gilnid in the Deadmines. The Anvil is a camp object you can build at skill 140. See the Blacksmithing guide for its materials.
Do I need a specialization for some plans?
Yes. The Forever tooltips still ask for Armorsmith, Weaponsmith or a master weapon spec on many top plans, such as Dark Iron Plate (Armorsmith) and Arcanite Reaper (Master Axesmith). See Blacksmithing specializations.
Do limited-stock plans come back?
In Classic they restock after a while. The Forever restock timer hasn’t been confirmed. [Unconfirmed]
Why do prices differ between vendors?
The records list slightly different prices from different sellers for the same plans, such as Gloves of the Dawn at 4g to 4g 50s. In Classic, faction reputation discounts cause this. [Classic-based]
Sources
- Questing.wiki — WoW Forever Blacksmithing recipes (learning sources, trainers, vendors, drops)
- Questing.wiki — WoW Forever Profession Specializations
- Wowhead Forever item tooltips (plan skill, specialization and reputation requirements)
- Wowhead Classic item tooltips (Classic Era comparison)