WoW Forever Rogue Poisons

From Wowhead's Forever rogue guides and Blizzard's beta notes. Poison ranks, charges, reagent costs and vendor locations are not on either source yet [Unconfirmed].
What changed in Forever
- Poisons scale with Attack Power (Wowhead). Off-hand talent damage was cut partly to pay for this.
- Poisons stack with Windfury Totem and Sharpening Stones, so you no longer pick one or the other (Wowhead).
- Poisons no longer fire against targets that are attacking you but that you are not hitting (Blizzard notes).
- Poisons bypass armor, but nature-immune targets shut them down (Wowhead, Assassination).
Assassination talents that touch poisons (Wowhead)
| Talent | Forever effect |
|---|---|
| Malice | Also raises poison crit chance |
| Improved Poisons | 50% chance a proc doesn't use a charge |
| Mutilate | 20% more damage on poisoned targets; base damage raised on 2 Nov (Blizzard) |
| Venom (passive since 2 Nov, Blizzard) | Shank raises Poison damage by 30% and apply chance by 20% for 6 sec |

Wowhead suggests Deadly Poison on at least one weapon for Mutilate. Combat leans on auto attacks rather than poisons; Subtlety sits between.
Getting poisons
Rogues learn poisons from a level 20 class quest chain. Wowhead's Forever database lists the Horde step Hinott's Assistance (quest 2480); full steps for both factions aren't on our allowed sources yet [Unconfirmed]. Check the Wowhead Forever rogue quests list in game.
Which spec leans on poisons?
| Spec | Poison reliance (Wowhead) |
|---|---|
| Assassination | Highest. The tree's Forever changes centre on poison output, and Mutilate rewards Deadly Poison. |
| Combat | Lowest. It is auto-attack focused, so poison- or bleed-immune bosses don't hurt it. |
| Subtlety | In between. |
Poisons at level 30
- Assassination gets Mutilate and Deadly Poison at 30 (Wowhead).
- Wowhead's level 30 Assassination build takes four points in Improved Poisons, so procs use charges far less often.
FAQ
Do poisons get better with gear? Yes. They scale with Attack Power (Wowhead).

Can I use poisons with Windfury Totem? Yes. They now stack (Wowhead).
Why didn't my poison proc on a mob hitting me? Poisons no longer trigger on targets you are not attacking (Blizzard notes).
Which races resist poisons? Dwarf Stoneform removes poison and grants immunity to it for 8 s (Wowhead).
See also: Assassination · Combat · Subtlety · Rogue rotation · Rogue stat priority · Enchants and consumables
Fan site. Beta (cap 30) until launch Thu 5 Nov 2026, 10:00 AEDT; numbers may change. [Unconfirmed] = not yet confirmed.
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Sources
- Wowhead — Assassination Rogue overview (Forever)
- Wowhead — Combat Rogue overview (Forever)
- Wowhead — Subtlety Rogue overview (Forever)
- Wowhead — Forever Rogue Quests
- Blizzard — WoW Forever Beta Development Notes (Updated October 26)
- Wowhead — Level 30 Assassination Rogue