WoW Forever Rogue Guide

What the full guide covers

This page is a free preview of The Complete WoW Forever Rogue Guide, a 50-page premium PDF for every race and both factions. Inside:

• Every Forever rogue change, including the final 26–27 October racial pass
• Five script-validated talent builds, point by point: levelling Combat, raid Combat Swords, raid Daggers (Mutilate & Venom), PvP Hemorrhage and PvP Combat-Premeditation
• Rotation flowcharts, hit caps, stat priorities and gear by phase up to the 9 December raids
• Every poison rank with Forever charges and values, and consumables
• Alliance and Horde 1–60 routes with all class quests
• Profession pairings, PvP openers with energy maths, all nine class matchups, and addons, macros and gold

We logged over 300 claims with sources, tagged each one Blizzard Client data Classic baseline Unverified Conflict, and listed every unverified item in an appendix.

Five rogue “facts” that are no longer true in Forever

• Sap breaks Stealth: not any more. You stay stealthed after a Sap, though you still need Stealth to cast it Blizzard.
• Sword Specialization: gone, along with Dagger, Mace and Fist Specialization. One talent, Hack and Slash, now gives a weapon-dependent bonus: extra attacks for swords and axes, crit for daggers and fists, armour penetration for maces Client data.
• Combo points vanish when you switch target: in beta, they stayed on the old target until you built points on a new one Client dataUnverified.
• Energy ticks every 2 seconds: Energy now refills smoothly, at about 10 per second Client dataUnverified.
• Human racials need a sword: no Forever racial is tied to a weapon. Humans have Ruthless, which is +1% crit since 26 Oct Blizzard.

The final racial pass for rogues (26–27 Oct)

Race	Change	Final value
Human	Ruthless	+1% crit (was 2%)
Dwarf	Earth Fury replaced	Artisan's Precision +1% hit
Orc	Blood Fury cooldown; Savage	2 min; Savage removed
Troll	Berserking duration	15 s (was 10)
Undead	Touch of the Grave internal cooldown	15 s (was 25)
Skyborne	Wind Blessed	2% haste (was 3%)

Source: Blizzard's Beta Development Notes (26–27 Oct), mirrored by Wowhead and Icy Veins Blizzard. Several of these values aren't in the launch client files yet. The full guide tells you which ones.

Original chart. Final Blizzard values. Cooldowns are averaged as duration ÷ cooldown × effect (our arithmetic).

Talent preview: the levelling build, levels 10–29

In Forever, talents start at level 10, each row opens after 5 more points in its tree, and milestone talents sit at 11, 16, 21 and 31 points Blizzard. That puts Flawless Execution at 25 and Hack and Slash at 30, not 29 as some plans claim. The Legacy perk Talented moves everything up to 5 levels earlier.

Original diagram. Talent positions from client data (two exports agree). This shows the first 20 points only.

Hit cap essentials

Hit and crit are now one stat each across melee, ranged and spells, and gear hit also helps your poisons land Blizzard. Precision 3/3 covers 3% of the cap, and a Dwarf's Artisan's Precision another 1%. Whether poisons roll on the spell miss table is still unconfirmed Unverified. The full guide explains what that means for Daggers.

PvP: the 10-second stun chain

Use Premeditation (+2 combo points), then Cheap Shot (2 points, +1 from Initiative 3/3) for 5 points from the opener. Pool Energy during the 4-second stun, then Kidney Shot as it ends, for 6 s from level 50. That's 10 seconds of chained stun Client data. Diminishing returns use the Classic categories until Blizzard publishes Forever's Classic baseline.

Rogue FAQ

What is the best rogue race in WoW Forever?

For raids, Human (+1% crit, always on) and Dwarf (+1% hit from Artisan's Precision) lead the Alliance, and Orc (Blood Fury on a 2 min cooldown) leads the Horde. For PvP, Human, Gnome, Undead and Orc are the top picks. The gap between races is about one percentage point of a stat.

When do rogues get Hack and Slash in WoW Forever?

At level 30 at the earliest. It's a row-5 talent, which needs 20 points in Combat first. With the Legacy perk Talented, you can take it up to 5 levels earlier.

What is the rogue hit cap in WoW Forever?

8% for abilities against a raid boss and 5% against a same-level target, according to guides that read client data. Dual-wield white hits need far more (about 27%) and can't reach the cap.

Does Sap break Stealth in WoW Forever?

No. Blizzard changed Sap so it no longer breaks Stealth. You still need to be in Stealth to cast it.